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Posted by kerrb at 2008-03-28 09:15 PM
Fitna is an anti-Islam film by Dutch politician Geert Wilders (half a million people voted for him in Dutch elections)

It has been removed from the Live Leak site:
Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature ... This is a sad day for freedom of speech on the net but we have to place the safety and well being of our staff above all else

An american ISP Network Solutions has also replaced the page on which Wilders film was going to be presented

For a description of the film contents and the reaction around the world see the wikipedia fitna page

excerpt:

Syria's Grand Mufti, Ahmad Badr al-Din, said that if Geert Wilders pictures the image of a burning Qur'an in his film, the Dutch people will be held responsible and possible attacks against Western public interests are not out of the question.[49]


Wilders is the subject of a fatwa, allegedly associated with Al-Qaeda, calling upon Muslims to assassinate Wilders in the name of Islam. [50]


Iran has threatened to review its diplomatic stance with The Netherlands, should the film be aired

For an interview with Geert Wilders see this liveleak video He wants the Quran banned ("a fascist book") and immigration to Holland from Muslim countries to be stopped. It's an interesting interview but the interviewer does not really press him on his inconsistency regarding freedom of speech. Wilders directs his attacks against Islam and "Islamisation" without drawing a clear distinction b/w moderate Islam and radical Islam

In an ironic twist, one of the Danish Muhammed cartoonists, Kurt Westergaard, has drawn a distinction b/w the cartoons (anti Islamic terrorists) and Wilders film (anti Islam) and has filed a law suit for violation of copyright (from wikipedia)

Nevertheless, it's a freedom of speech issue
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Posted by kerrb at 2008-03-29 12:58 AM
you can watch the fitna movie here (video google) or here
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Posted by arthur at 2008-03-30 05:52 PM
NSA censoring the internet is a very BIG issue.

Network solutions is the DNS registrar for the whole of .com .net, .org and also provides registration of all registrars for all top level domains. It is a basically a front for NSA, also in control of Verisign digital certificates and Visa credit cards. NSA has a mandate for routine surveillance of all internet traffic and is now openly asserting a claim to censor it as well.

Network Solutions has set the DNS registration of both fitnathemove.com and hezbollah.org to "CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED" which prevents the owners from using their domain names with any ISP anywhere in the world. The owners are an anti-muslim Dutch politician and the largest political party in Lebanon and the stated reasons are overtly based on political censorship.

In addition they have substituted their own web page advertizing their "services".  Clicking on the link on that page you can then "Learn More" about their "New Customer Protection Measures" which protects them from having potential customers register (far cheaper) with other competing registrars by reserving domain names inquired about by potential customers so that for the next 4 days they can be registered by anyone at all who chooses to register with Network Solutions but cannot be registered by the original inquirer with any other registrar.

Sorry, I still don't have time to participate at all but decided to provide this info as I happen to be familiar with DNS registration issues and Network Solutions/SAIC/NSA/Verisign/Visa to an extent that will take a while to percolate through to the general public.